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salatious · Jun 30, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45

50K a day... What the hell are you farming?

Enigmatics · Jun 30, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Superior Vigor and Absorption runes. Courtesy of Giants, gotta lo- oh SNAP area net's coming with nerfs, everyone RUN.

Elric · Jun 30, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Right now, this is for farming starting at low levels. Something EVERYONE can do without havign to build a farmer or worry too much about dieing all the time. There are better spots. As pointed out, Hill Giants are a great one. Gates of Kryta, also a good spot, but i really hate doing missions to farm. Cause if you die you're screwed. But you can also farm the White mantle in a later mission if you are willing to do it(War/Mo, that's your best spot aside from Hydras). Can't remember the name right now, like i said, on vacation. anyway, i just wanted to post something everyone can use at any time and not have too much stress or have to consider building a whole new farmer. Those things will come in time. It seems everyone liked what i had to say, so I'll try to keep things up to date and post some more of my strategies and stuff for the community to use. but, again, that'll be in a few days when i get home. Until then, good hunting. ^^

Kali Ma · Jun 30, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

This is an awesome thread, thank you Elric.

I have one question though regarding salvaging... I've been getting confusing results from my salvage kits. It's common wisdom that one should use an Expert Kit on highly salvageable items and for rare or purple ones, and I've even seen some suggest to use them on everything. But at the price difference for an Expert kit, it doesn't seem reasonable to do that in the long run. And here's why I think that...

Often times I'll use my normal salvage kit on Highly Salvageble item and still get +10 items from it. Sometimes I'll use an Expert Kit on one, or on a higher level item, and get only 1 or 2 items. In my experience so far, and I've salvaged a lot of stuff with both kits, there doesn't seem to be any pattern to Expert Kits consistently giving more materials than normal kits do, and sometimes it seems to be the opposite.

Do you use Expert Kits on everything? Have you tried using normal kits on high salvages, not including rare and purple items, and noticed a significant difference between the two?

My concern is whether it's more reasonable to just use a normal kit for all non-rare/purple items, which is what I'd started doing recently, or not. I swear, I've tried using both expert and normal kits on Charr Carvings for example, and never noticed a difference between the two in what I get back, which led me to stop using the expert kits on them.

Elric · Jul 01, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Kali Ma, my pleasure. As for your question...this is my personal view of it.

Expert salvage kits are mostly for Runes and Weapon mods. However, there are items that you can get using an expert salvage kit that you can't with a normal. For example, you will never get Steel Ingots from wands using a normal Salvage Kit. As for the long term cost/benefit comparison, it depends on how much you are willing to risk or how much you have at your disposal. But most importantly, do you even want to play that part of the market. I don't mind risking some extra money to get a few Steel Ingots. But realisticly, IMHO, it's not a very good idea. Possibly profitable, but a gamble none the less. i've been pretty lucky most of the time, but sometimes i get jack for what i pay out.

As for using the Expert Salvage Kits on Highly Salvageabel Items, the only reason I suggest it is this. If you do manage to Salvage the Rare Crafting Materials from them, you will get a lot of them, not just one or two like you normaly would. to me, risking 1/25 of a 500 gold Kit is worth the possibility of getting back 12 Steel Ingots or 11 Parchments or w/e the rare Salvage may be.

Purple Items are a little different. They may or may not have a weapon mod on them. If selling mods is your cup of tea, then use the Expert kits, if not, a normal one will suffice. Again, it all comes down to how much you want to risk in the process.

As for the collector Items, i don't use the expert kits on them since I am yet to see them yield anything worth the cost of the Expert Kit. Supposedly you can get Lumps of Charcoal from the Fire Imp Hearts you can collect in Kryta, using the Expert Salvage kit. But I have yet to test this theory so I can neither confirm nor deny the correctness of that statement. so try at your own risk.

in general, normal kits are good for anything that doesn't say Highly Salvageable, rune of "whatever," or come with a weapon mod you may want to try and sell. So using normal on everything purple and lower is a pretty safe bet.

I hope this answers your question. if not, feel free to write back or pm me, i'll help as best i can. Good hunting. ^^

The undead Mesmer · Jul 04, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

scroundels rise is a good farming spot for mergoyle skulls and some more purple gold stuff +dyes hehe on a good day i get 50 bleu items 20 purple and maybe 10 gold im not kidding you only need to have an ele with an AoE spell or and ranger with that ignite arrows skill.

killing mergoyles is easy because they dont use skills hehe

ooh an im gonna try that charr hide farming spot one i need some cash.

spacemonkeymafia · Jul 04, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

that is helpfull and i thank you

shimeril · Jul 05, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Excellent article Elric. I agree farming is part of the game. After all, we play for what we, as individuals, get out of the game. I try and solo most of the time, and have been picking up lots of crafting materials via salvaging. But I must say, I learnt a hell of a lot from your post.

/raises glass

Shadowdaemon · Jul 05, 2005, 03:04 AM // 03:04

i got a few more tips on the same topic, you can use the same method at the flame temple corridor(where ashes quest is) it is full of charr, and there is a zone in the back so you can come back and do it over, just bring partner or a hench with you so you dont get in trouble for farming.

also the charr hides, alot of people will buy them for 50 gold, which seems like a good price for something so common and only worth 3 gold at shop WRONG! you can trade 4 charr hides for a fur square, fur squares you can sell to the rare material trader for 250-500 gold depending on how many he has at the time, so basically these people buying them for 50 are making gold off of people easily, so keep em and do it yourself, you'll get alot more gold

chaos dragoon · Jul 05, 2005, 07:44 AM // 07:44

wow good thread.ive done the beetletun barrel thing and got some golds and alot of purps.never thought of salvaging the non rares.im gona start doing that to earn some $.thx alot

Nitradamus · Jul 05, 2005, 09:04 AM // 09:04

I'm a lvl 14 N/E, Do you think i could make it through your route without getting killed?

zap · Jul 05, 2005, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Great post!

Your ideas must have really caught on....I tried to take some parchment to the trader....best offer was only 50 gold....

(wonder if Anet watches this board....hmmmm)

Nitradamus · Jul 05, 2005, 03:19 PM // 15:19

got 800 gold from Healy(sp?) in ascalon for parchment

zap · Jul 05, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitradamus

got 800 gold from Healy(sp?) in ascalon for parchment

Just went back in and looked...price was down to 20 gold...wonder why?

Artemis Entreri · Jul 05, 2005, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I tried to do the DC run, but his Map track does not look the same as mine.

Wierd, I only end up at the small vila, where there is a farmer felma?(name)
and a collector.

Question is, am I going the right way?

Rayne Morgan · Jul 05, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38

I just wanted to add my thanks to Elric, I'm not huge on the farming thing. I get bored doing the same thing over and over again so I didn't know the places to go. But after my guild got our guild hall this weekend my fundage was very low and picking up stacks of Charr Hides helped to bring my funds back to about half of where it was. Many thanks for the info!

Nitradamus · Jul 05, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by zap

Just went back in and looked...price was down to 20 gold...wonder why?

Maby i'm just lucky, i have sold 40 rolls of parchment, the price has been between 700 & 800 everytime..

Elric · Jul 05, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Nitradamus - At that level you'll want your Death magic at max pretty much. Necro farming is mostly about minions and death nova. Make a minion, slap death nova on it and let it die. Only problem is, you can't do the Hot Springs Section because of the undead. Can't make more minions out of someone else's minions I guess, lol.

As for the low price of Parchment. I have no clue yet why that happens. Sometimes it comes up at like 20 or 50, sometimes it comes up at 1100. I still have no idea how it happens or why it happens. Either the economy is self-correcting, ANet lowers the prices every once in a while to discourage farming, or everyone and their mother turned Parcments in at that point in time. If that happens, I usualy just hold onto my stacks and wait until Tuesday or Thursday to turn them in. Prices are usualy really good then. At least that's how it is for me. I'll keep trying to figure out what causes these massive drops in price for both materials and dyes, but no guarentees. Just hold onto your stuff until the price goes back up, that's the best I can do for now.

DC Run - Follow the path straight out of DC, after a good jog you'll get to some Tengu on your left and a big hill in front of you. Go over the fill and you'll have a ridge on the other side. There should be about 3 groups of the big trees. There should be one right in front of you if you are still faceing east. You should see another chunk of road either next to or behind this eastern group of Big Killy-Tree-Thingies. To the south of that road is an open field, in that open field is the barrel you are looking for. I don't know where you're ending up Artemis, sorry.

Dazzler · Jul 05, 2005, 09:13 PM // 21:13

There is some confusion over the price of parchment.

Here's the deal. You can sell it by the singles to the Rare Material Merchant. Or you can sell it in lots of 10 to the Material Merchant. I just found this out.

I've been tracking the Rare Material Merchant prices for the past few days at different times of the day.

Parchment bid prices have ranged between 20 and 75, the average bid price being 58.6 per sheet of parchment. This translates into 586gp for 10 sheets.
The ask prices have ranged between 150 and 175. The bid/ask spread for parchment is always 100gp, except when the merchant hits the artificial ask floor, in which case the ask price stays at 150 while the bid price can drop lower than 50--for example to 20 in one of my samples.

Now for some reason the Material Trader has a higher bid price on parchments. I just checked right now. The rare material merchant was bidding 55gp per sheet (= 550gp for 10 sheets). The Material Merchant was offering 735gp for 10 sheets. That's almost 200gp more per lot of sheets. I don't know why this is, but the answer is clear: check both merchants and sell to the higher one.

As far as the economy in general, I'm still collecting data to try and figure it out.

Black Dye for example. The bid/ask spread is not constant like it appears to be for parchment.
The bid price is always approximately 79% of the ask price. This percentage changes on each sample, but it is always within +/- 1% of 79%. During my sample period, the ask price has ranged between 4,662gp and 6,061gp

Silver Dye ask price has ranged between 566 and 811. It's bid price is always approx. 74% (+/- 1%) of the ask price.

I need to bite the bullet and buy some ectoplasm and obsidian shards so I can monitor their spreads as well.

Elric · Jul 05, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Wow, thanks for the info Dazzler. Saved me the trouble of sorting it out myself. You're a life-saver. ^^ I'll try and monitor the Obsidian Shards and Ecto-plasms too. Hard to come by as they may be, but that's my next farming project. ^^

Jun 30, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45	#21
salatious Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Richmond, Va Guild: Looking for a better Guild Profession: E/Mo	50K a day... What the hell are you farming?

Jun 30, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#22
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	Superior Vigor and Absorption runes. Courtesy of Giants, gotta lo- oh SNAP area net's coming with nerfs, everyone RUN.

Jun 30, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#23
Elric Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Purgatory Guild: The Holy Lotus Archive	Right now, this is for farming starting at low levels. Something EVERYONE can do without havign to build a farmer or worry too much about dieing all the time. There are better spots. As pointed out, Hill Giants are a great one. Gates of Kryta, also a good spot, but i really hate doing missions to farm. Cause if you die you're screwed. But you can also farm the White mantle in a later mission if you are willing to do it(War/Mo, that's your best spot aside from Hydras). Can't remember the name right now, like i said, on vacation. anyway, i just wanted to post something everyone can use at any time and not have too much stress or have to consider building a whole new farmer. Those things will come in time. It seems everyone liked what i had to say, so I'll try to keep things up to date and post some more of my strategies and stuff for the community to use. but, again, that'll be in a few days when i get home. Until then, good hunting. ^^

Jun 30, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18	#24
Kali Ma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: N/Mo	This is an awesome thread, thank you Elric. I have one question though regarding salvaging... I've been getting confusing results from my salvage kits. It's common wisdom that one should use an Expert Kit on highly salvageable items and for rare or purple ones, and I've even seen some suggest to use them on everything. But at the price difference for an Expert kit, it doesn't seem reasonable to do that in the long run. And here's why I think that... Often times I'll use my normal salvage kit on Highly Salvageble item and still get +10 items from it. Sometimes I'll use an Expert Kit on one, or on a higher level item, and get only 1 or 2 items. In my experience so far, and I've salvaged a lot of stuff with both kits, there doesn't seem to be any pattern to Expert Kits consistently giving more materials than normal kits do, and sometimes it seems to be the opposite. Do you use Expert Kits on everything? Have you tried using normal kits on high salvages, not including rare and purple items, and noticed a significant difference between the two? My concern is whether it's more reasonable to just use a normal kit for all non-rare/purple items, which is what I'd started doing recently, or not. I swear, I've tried using both expert and normal kits on Charr Carvings for example, and never noticed a difference between the two in what I get back, which led me to stop using the expert kits on them.

Jul 01, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#25
Elric Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Purgatory Guild: The Holy Lotus Archive	Kali Ma, my pleasure. As for your question...this is my personal view of it. Expert salvage kits are mostly for Runes and Weapon mods. However, there are items that you can get using an expert salvage kit that you can't with a normal. For example, you will never get Steel Ingots from wands using a normal Salvage Kit. As for the long term cost/benefit comparison, it depends on how much you are willing to risk or how much you have at your disposal. But most importantly, do you even want to play that part of the market. I don't mind risking some extra money to get a few Steel Ingots. But realisticly, IMHO, it's not a very good idea. Possibly profitable, but a gamble none the less. i've been pretty lucky most of the time, but sometimes i get jack for what i pay out. As for using the Expert Salvage Kits on Highly Salvageabel Items, the only reason I suggest it is this. If you do manage to Salvage the Rare Crafting Materials from them, you will get a lot of them, not just one or two like you normaly would. to me, risking 1/25 of a 500 gold Kit is worth the possibility of getting back 12 Steel Ingots or 11 Parchments or w/e the rare Salvage may be. Purple Items are a little different. They may or may not have a weapon mod on them. If selling mods is your cup of tea, then use the Expert kits, if not, a normal one will suffice. Again, it all comes down to how much you want to risk in the process. As for the collector Items, i don't use the expert kits on them since I am yet to see them yield anything worth the cost of the Expert Kit. Supposedly you can get Lumps of Charcoal from the Fire Imp Hearts you can collect in Kryta, using the Expert Salvage kit. But I have yet to test this theory so I can neither confirm nor deny the correctness of that statement. so try at your own risk. in general, normal kits are good for anything that doesn't say Highly Salvageable, rune of "whatever," or come with a weapon mod you may want to try and sell. So using normal on everything purple and lower is a pretty safe bet. I hope this answers your question. if not, feel free to write back or pm me, i'll help as best i can. Good hunting. ^^

Jul 04, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03	#26
The undead Mesmer Delphian Scribe Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Guild: No guild ;_; Profession: N/Me	scroundels rise is a good farming spot for mergoyle skulls and some more purple gold stuff +dyes hehe on a good day i get 50 bleu items 20 purple and maybe 10 gold im not kidding you only need to have an ele with an AoE spell or and ranger with that ignite arrows skill. killing mergoyles is easy because they dont use skills hehe ooh an im gonna try that charr hide farming spot one i need some cash.

Jul 04, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09	#27
spacemonkeymafia Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	that is helpfull and i thank you

Jul 05, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#28
shimeril Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Axedent Prone Profession: Mo/R	Excellent article Elric. I agree farming is part of the game. After all, we play for what we, as individuals, get out of the game. I try and solo most of the time, and have been picking up lots of crafting materials via salvaging. But I must say, I learnt a hell of a lot from your post. /raises glass

Jul 05, 2005, 03:04 AM // 03:04	#29
Shadowdaemon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anderson IN USA Guild: Ecks Di [xD] Profession: W/N	i got a few more tips on the same topic, you can use the same method at the flame temple corridor(where ashes quest is) it is full of charr, and there is a zone in the back so you can come back and do it over, just bring partner or a hench with you so you dont get in trouble for farming. also the charr hides, alot of people will buy them for 50 gold, which seems like a good price for something so common and only worth 3 gold at shop WRONG! you can trade 4 charr hides for a fur square, fur squares you can sell to the rare material trader for 250-500 gold depending on how many he has at the time, so basically these people buying them for 50 are making gold off of people easily, so keep em and do it yourself, you'll get alot more gold

Jul 05, 2005, 07:44 AM // 07:44	#30
chaos dragoon Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Warrior Nation[WN] Profession: R/	wow good thread.ive done the beetletun barrel thing and got some golds and alot of purps.never thought of salvaging the non rares.im gona start doing that to earn some $.thx alot

Jul 05, 2005, 09:04 AM // 09:04	#31
Nitradamus Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway! Guild: The Demonic Brotherhood Profession: N/E	I'm a lvl 14 N/E, Do you think i could make it through your route without getting killed?

Jul 05, 2005, 02:00 PM // 14:00	#32
zap Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Nope Profession: W/R	Great post! Your ideas must have really caught on....I tried to take some parchment to the trader....best offer was only 50 gold.... (wonder if Anet watches this board....hmmmm)

Jul 05, 2005, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#33
Nitradamus Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway! Guild: The Demonic Brotherhood Profession: N/E	got 800 gold from Healy(sp?) in ascalon for parchment

Jul 05, 2005, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#35
Artemis Entreri Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: N/Mo	I tried to do the DC run, but his Map track does not look the same as mine. Wierd, I only end up at the small vila, where there is a farmer felma?(name) and a collector. Question is, am I going the right way?

Jul 05, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38	#36
Rayne Morgan Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Guild: Twisted Empire Profession: Me/R	I just wanted to add my thanks to Elric, I'm not huge on the farming thing. I get bored doing the same thing over and over again so I didn't know the places to go. But after my guild got our guild hall this weekend my fundage was very low and picking up stacks of Charr Hides helped to bring my funds back to about half of where it was. Many thanks for the info!

Jul 05, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36	#38
Elric Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Purgatory Guild: The Holy Lotus Archive	Nitradamus - At that level you'll want your Death magic at max pretty much. Necro farming is mostly about minions and death nova. Make a minion, slap death nova on it and let it die. Only problem is, you can't do the Hot Springs Section because of the undead. Can't make more minions out of someone else's minions I guess, lol. As for the low price of Parchment. I have no clue yet why that happens. Sometimes it comes up at like 20 or 50, sometimes it comes up at 1100. I still have no idea how it happens or why it happens. Either the economy is self-correcting, ANet lowers the prices every once in a while to discourage farming, or everyone and their mother turned Parcments in at that point in time. If that happens, I usualy just hold onto my stacks and wait until Tuesday or Thursday to turn them in. Prices are usualy really good then. At least that's how it is for me. I'll keep trying to figure out what causes these massive drops in price for both materials and dyes, but no guarentees. Just hold onto your stuff until the price goes back up, that's the best I can do for now. DC Run - Follow the path straight out of DC, after a good jog you'll get to some Tengu on your left and a big hill in front of you. Go over the fill and you'll have a ridge on the other side. There should be about 3 groups of the big trees. There should be one right in front of you if you are still faceing east. You should see another chunk of road either next to or behind this eastern group of Big Killy-Tree-Thingies. To the south of that road is an open field, in that open field is the barrel you are looking for. I don't know where you're ending up Artemis, sorry.

Jul 05, 2005, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#39
Dazzler Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/Me	There is some confusion over the price of parchment. Here's the deal. You can sell it by the singles to the Rare Material Merchant. Or you can sell it in lots of 10 to the Material Merchant. I just found this out. I've been tracking the Rare Material Merchant prices for the past few days at different times of the day. Parchment bid prices have ranged between 20 and 75, the average bid price being 58.6 per sheet of parchment. This translates into 586gp for 10 sheets. The ask prices have ranged between 150 and 175. The bid/ask spread for parchment is always 100gp, except when the merchant hits the artificial ask floor, in which case the ask price stays at 150 while the bid price can drop lower than 50--for example to 20 in one of my samples. Now for some reason the Material Trader has a higher bid price on parchments. I just checked right now. The rare material merchant was bidding 55gp per sheet (= 550gp for 10 sheets). The Material Merchant was offering 735gp for 10 sheets. That's almost 200gp more per lot of sheets. I don't know why this is, but the answer is clear: check both merchants and sell to the higher one. As far as the economy in general, I'm still collecting data to try and figure it out. Black Dye for example. The bid/ask spread is not constant like it appears to be for parchment. The bid price is always approximately 79% of the ask price. This percentage changes on each sample, but it is always within +/- 1% of 79%. During my sample period, the ask price has ranged between 4,662gp and 6,061gp Silver Dye ask price has ranged between 566 and 811. It's bid price is always approx. 74% (+/- 1%) of the ask price. I need to bite the bullet and buy some ectoplasm and obsidian shards so I can monitor their spreads as well.

Jul 05, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27	#40
Elric Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Purgatory Guild: The Holy Lotus Archive	Wow, thanks for the info Dazzler. Saved me the trouble of sorting it out myself. You're a life-saver. ^^ I'll try and monitor the Obsidian Shards and Ecto-plasms too. Hard to come by as they may be, but that's my next farming project. ^^